Tax Tips for Forex Traders (Part 4)

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ATO Australian tax treatment for options trades 🇦🇺

I am posting this as I hope it will help other Australian options traders trading in US options with their tax treatment for ATO (Australian Tax Office) purposes. The ATO provides very little guidance on tax treatment for options trading and I had to do a lot of digging to get to this point. I welcome any feedback on this post.

The Deloitte Report from 2011

My initial research led me to this comprehensive Deloitte report from 2011 which is hosted on the ASX website. I've been through this document about 20 times and although it's a great report to understand how different scenarios apply, it's still really hard to find out what's changed since 2011.
I am mainly relating myself to the scenario of being an individual and non-sole trader (no business set up) for my trading. I think this will apply to many others here too. According to that document, there isn't much guidance on what happens when you're an options premium seller and close positions before they expire.
Note that the ATO sometimes uses the term "ETO" (Exchange Traded Option) to discuss what we're talking about here with options trading.
Also note: The ATO discusses the separate Capital Gains Tax ("CGT") events that occur in each scenario in some of their documents. A CGT event will then determine what tax treatment gets applied if you don't know much about capital gains in Australia.

ATO Request for Advice

Since the Deloitte report didn't answer my questions, I eventually ended up contacting the ATO with a request for advice and tried to explain my scenario: I'm an Australian resident for tax purposes, I'm trading with tastyworks in $USD, I'm primarily a premium seller and I don't have it set up with any business/company/trust etc. In effect, I have a rough idea that I'm looking at capital gains tax but I wanted to fully understand how it worked.
Initially the ATO respondent didn't understand what I was talking about when I said that I was selling a position first and buying it to close. According to the laws, there is no example of this given anywhere because it is always assumed in ATO examples that you buy a position and sell it. Why? I have no idea.
I sent a follow up request with even more detail to the ATO. I think (hope) they understood what I meant now after explaining what an options premium seller is!

Currency Gains/Losses

First, I have to consider translating my $USD to Australian dollars. How do we treat that?
FX Translation
If the premium from selling the options contract is received in $USD, do I convert it to $AUD on that day it is received?
ATO response:
Subsection 960-50(6), Item 5 of the Income Tax Assessment Act 1997 (ITAA 1997) states the amount should be translated at the time of the transaction or event for the purposes of the Capital Gains Tax provisions. For the purpose of granting an option to an entity, the time of the event is when you grant the option (subsection 104-20(2) ITAA 1997).
This is a very detailed response which even refers to the level of which section in the law it is coming from. I now know that I need to translate my trades from $USD to $AUD according to the RBA's translation rates for every single trade.
But what about gains or losses on translation?
There is one major rule that overrides FX gains and losses after digging deeper. The ATO has a "$250k balance election". This will probably apply to a lot of people trading in balances below $250k a lot of the FX rules don't apply. It states:
However, the $250,000 balance election broadly enables you to disregard certain foreign currency gains and losses on certain foreign currency denominated bank accounts and credit card accounts (called qualifying forex accounts) with balances below a specified limit.
Therefore, I'm all good disregarding FX gains and losses! I just need to ensure I translate my trades on the day they occurred. It's a bit of extra admin to do unfortunately, but it is what it is.

Credit Trades

This is the scenario where we SELL a position first, collect premium, and close the position by making an opposite BUY order. Selling a naked PUT, for example.
What happens when you open the position? ATO Response:
The option is grantedCGT event D2 happens when a taxpayer grants an option. The time of the event is when the option is granted. The capital gain or loss arising is the difference between the capital proceeds and the expenditure incurred to grant the option.
This seems straight forward. We collect premium and record a capital gain.
What happens when you close the position? ATO Response:
Closing out an optionThe establishment of an ETO contract is referred to as opening a position (ASX Explanatory Booklet 'Understanding Options Trading'). A person who writes (sells) a call or put option may close out their position by taking (buying) an identical call or put option in the same series. This is referred to as the close-out of an option or the closing-out of an opening position.
CGT event C2 happens when a taxpayer's ownership of an intangible CGT asset ends. Paragraph 104-25(1)(a) of the ITAA 1997 provides that ownership of an intangible CGT asset ends by cancellation, surrender, or release or similar means.
CGT event C2 therefore happens to a taxpayer when their position under an ETO is closed out where the close-out results in the cancellation, release or discharge of the ETO.
Under subsection 104-25(3) of the ITAA 1997 you make a capital gain from CGT event C2 if the capital proceeds from the ending are more than the assets cost base. You make a capital loss if those capital proceeds are less than the assets reduced cost base.
Both CGT events (being D2 upon granting the option and C2 upon adopting the close out position) must be accounted for if applicable to a situation.
My take on this is that the BUY position that cancels out your SELL position will most often simply realise a capital loss (the entire portion of your BUY position). In effect, it 'cancels out' your original premium sold, but it's not recorded that way, it's recorded as two separate CGT events - your capital gain from CGT event D2 (SELL position), then, your capital loss from CGT event C2 (BUY position) is also recorded. In effect, they net each other out, but you don't record them as a 'netted out' number - you record them separately.
From what I understand, if you were trading as a sole tradecompany then you would record them as a netted out capital gain or loss, because the trades would be classified as trading stock but not in our case here as an individual person trading options. The example I've written below should hopefully make that clearer.
EXAMPLE:
Trade on 1 July 2020: Open position
Trade on 15 July 2020: Close position
We can see from this simple example that even though you made a gain on those trades, you still have to record the transactions separately, as first a gain, then as a loss. Note that it is not just a matter of netting off the value of the net profit collected and converting the profit to $AUD because the exchange rate will be different on the date of the opening trade and on the date of the closing trade we have to record them separately.

What if you don't close the position and the options are exercised? ATO Response:
The option is granted and then the option is exercisedUnder subsection 104-40(5) of the Income Tax Assessment Act 1997 (ITAA 1997) the capital gain or loss from the CGT event D2 is disregarded if the option is exercised. Subsection 134-1(1), item 1, of the ITAA 1997 refers to the consequences for the grantor of the exercise of the option.
Where the option binds the grantor to dispose of a CGT asset section 116-65 of the ITAA 1997 applies to the transaction.
Subsection 116-65(2) of the ITAA 1997 provides that the capital proceeds from the grant or disposal of the shares (CGT asset) include any payment received for granting the option. The disposal of the shares is a CGT event A1 which occurs under subsection 104-10(3) of the ITAA 1997 when the contract for disposal is entered into.
You would still make a capital gain at the happening of the CGT event D2 in the year the event occurs (the time the option is granted). That capital gain is disregarded when the option is exercised. Where the option is exercised in the subsequent tax year, the CGT event D2 gain is disregarded at that point. An amendment may be necessary to remove the gain previously included in taxable income for the year in which the CGT event D2 occurred.
This scenario is pretty unlikely - for me personally I never hold positions to expiration, but it is nice to know what happens with the tax treatment if it ultimately does come to that.

Debit Trades

What about the scenario when you want to BUY some options first, then SELL that position and close it later? Buying a CALL, for example. This case is what the ATO originally thought my request was about before I clarified with them. They stated:
When you buy an ETO, you acquire an asset (the ETO) for the amount paid for it (that is, the premium) plus any additional costs such as brokerage fees and the Australian Clearing House (ACH) fee. These costs together form the cost base of the ETO (section 109-5 of the ITAA 1997). On the close out of the position, you make a capital gain or loss equal to the difference between the cost base of the ETO and the amount received on its expiry or termination (subsection 104-25(3) of the ITAA 1997). The capital gain or loss is calculated on each parcel of options.
So it seems it is far easier to record debit trades for tax purposes. It is easier for the tax office to see that you open a position by buying it, and close it by selling it. And in that case you net off the total after selling it. This is very similar to a trading shares and the CGT treatment is in effect very similar (the main difference is that it is not coming under CGT event A1 because there is no asset to dispose of, like in a shares or property trade).

Other ATO Info (FYI)

The ATO also referred me to the following documents. They relate to some 'decisions' that they made from super funds but the same principles apply to individuals they said.
The ATO’s Interpretative Decision in relation to the tax treatment of premiums payable and receivable for exchange traded options can be found on the links below. Please note that the interpretative decisions below are in relation to self-managed superannuation funds but the same principles would apply in your situation [as an individual taxpayer, not as a super fund].
Premiums Receivable: ATO ID 2009/110

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I'm a 30 year old Teacher with 8k savings, I'm looking to invest some of it somewhere, and start a new career. Teaching is fun but it's draining and doesn't pay enough.

Hi everyone! I have low-income, 35k-50k depending on if I work 2 jobs. My expenses are less than 1k a month, I don't pay rent yet, I have a 750 credit, low utilization on credit cards, no 401k or IRA. I have some precious gemstones and pokemon cards as assets lol Some people were saying learning day trading can be good long term, or getting into wholesaling real estate. I don't know though. I live in the North-east of USA. I can maybe move down south where my money might stretch more. I'd be nice to turn 5k into 10k through investments and find a new job that pays more than 60k so I have more buffer money but I'm not sure if that's possible. It took me so long to save this little bit amount and don't want to lose it
I appreciate any advice or opinions
Thanks all for responding. I will definitely implement the advice given! Sorry for the lack of details in the post, my first time posting here. I'm not a traditional teacher. I'm a Bachelors's level ABA Therapist, I work with people who have autism and it pays 35k before taxes. I'm also a live-in aid to an adult who has autism (hence no rent) that pays 12k after taxes. I haven't worked as an ABA Therapist for a year because I was learning Digital Marketing. I ended up not liking it. I live in NJ, very close to NY. I will go back to get an ABA Job soon so I can save. My cousin flips properties in NJ and Florida so he's the one who told me about wholesaling real estate. He just started day trading Forex and said he's made money on some trades. That's where I got that idea from. I have a Robinhood account with 100 in there that jumped to 119, and I have 300 in bitcoin that I haven't checked in a while. For reference, The little financial advice I've got is from my dad who grew up dirt poor. He's not poor anymore from working hard and saving but he's not much of a sharer. I used to track my monthly spending and I have an excel sheet with my checking, saving, bill dates, and monthly and yearly slots to add numbers and see how the numbers change. But yeah I don't know much and I want to learn...I guess also worth noting I've made a lot of unwise impulse purchases. Vacations, clothes, video games, events, restaurants, shoes, books, alcohol, electronics.
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roth IRA account with Forex capabilities?

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I'm a 30 year old Teacher with 8k savings, I'm looking to invest some of it somewhere, and start a new career. Teaching is fun but it's draining and doesn't pay enough.

Hi everyone! I have low-income, 35k-50k depending on if I work 2 jobs. My expenses are less than 1k a month, I don't pay rent yet, I have a 750 credit, low utilization on credit cards, no 401k or IRA. I have some precious gemstones and pokemon cards as assets lol Some people were saying learning day trading can be good long term, or getting into wholesaling real estate. I don't know though. I live in the North-east of USA. I can maybe move down south where my money might stretch more. I'd be nice to turn 5k into 10k through investments and find a new job that pays more than 60k so I have more buffer money but I'm not sure if that's possible. It took me so long to save this little bit amount and don't want to lose it
I appreciate any advice or opinions

Thanks all for responding. I will definitely implement the advice given! Sorry for the lack of details in the post, my first time posting here. I'm not a traditional teacher. I'm a Bachelors's level ABA Therapist, I work with people who have autism and it pays 35k before taxes. I'm also a live-in aid to an adult who has autism (hence no rent) that pays 12k after taxes. I haven't worked as an ABA Therapist for a year because I was learning Digital Marketing. I ended up not liking it. I live in NJ, very close to NY. I will go back to get an ABA Job soon so I can save. My cousin flips properties in NJ and Florida so he's the one who told me about wholesaling real estate. He just started day trading Forex and said he's made money on some trades. That's where I got that idea from. I have a Robinhood account with 100 in there that jumped to 119, and I have 300 in bitcoin that I haven't checked in a while. For reference, The little financial advice I've got is from my dad who grew up dirt poor. He's not poor anymore from working hard and saving but he's not much of a sharer. I used to track my monthly spending and I have an excel sheet with my checking, saving, bill dates, and monthly and yearly slots to add numbers and see how the numbers change. But yeah I don't know much and I want to learn...I guess also worth noting I've made a lot of unwise impulse purchases. Vacations, clothes, video games, events, restaurants, shoes, books, alcohol, electronics.
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Do I need a financial advisor? (uk)

I have been trading forex. I am currently making 5 figures a month. Do I need financial advice as to what to do with taxes and how to benefit myself. Also how would I find the right financial advisor for me?
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Taxes for Forex trading

Can anyone help me by providing me resources on how i can learn when and how i would pay taxes if i was to start a Forex account as a full time job any advice would help as im struggling to find answers and the government site does an awful job of trying to explain taxes.
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I then found MT4 and MetaEditor and the world of forex... I was immediately in love with the simplicity of the language (C#), but I ditched it because forex just felt impossible to code around with all the volatility and news based price action. (I'm sure there's exceptions to this - but does anyone have a similar experience with it?)
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Stake vs Hatch Fees Explained

--UPDATE--
In light of Christine from Hatch's announcement of a reduction to a flat $3 broker fee, I've updated in a new comment here.
Treat the direct comparison of $ below as incorrect (once Hatch update their pricing).
--Old Text--
I decided to undertake a fees comparison of the two platforms as Stake is launching on Tuesday.
Comparing Hatch and Stake, the long and short of it is:
Most people will do the latter and be DCA in to a lot of smaller companies so Stake will end up being a lot cheaper on the buy-in.
https://imgur.com/a/wkuiIl1
Comparing to US based companies, assuming you use Transferwise to deposit into a US bank account and there is no fee to transfer from the US account to their service, Transferwise appear to get a 0.6% better FOREX rate than Hatch did when I just checked - Transferwise was $0.6067 vs Hatch $0.6029 (I'm assuming the Hatch FOREX rate will be similar to Stake, can't check atm as I don't have a Stake account until Tuesday). So the break-even point for using Transferwise at current FOREX rates is about $250 (below Stake is better, above Transferwise is better), excluding IBKTD Ameritrade fees (TDA have no broker fees currently). Hatch will allow USD transfer but only if you email them so I don't think you can use this as your regular deposit strategy.
One thing to consider with IBKTD Amertrade is they are US companies who are not at all interested in your NZ tax requirements so will not help you at all in the process. Customer support will be harder to get, and using Transferwise is not a trivial process especially if you are doing very regular deposits it can become a PITA for a relatively tiny difference in fees (eg if you deposit $500/fortnight the difference in FX fees is about $3 per transaction, so just don't buy that bag of chips and save yourself the hassle of using Transferwise + foreign based company IMO - and this is coming from someone who even changes power and ISP companies every year chasing better deals!).
Once you want to withdraw money, Hatch is obviously cheaper at 0.5% (edit: despite the $8 withdrawal fee) compared to 1% with Stake (and they have a $2 withdrawl fee that will be pretty negligible if you have a lot of money invested). Hatch will do an off-market transfer of US shares so best strategy might be using Stake for deposits and Hatch for withdrawals.
Another benefit to Hatch is that they are Kiwi owned so I think more likely to be accessible in terms of Tax and customer support than an Aussie based company (Stake). Lastly with Hatch, if a company is less than $400/share then you should buy a series of Fractional share bids unless you are buying more than 2.66 share units, above that the $8 broker fee is better.
Edit: I had a user complaining about the withdrawal fee of $8 through Hatch. This is true if you are regularly buying and selling shares. Typical advice given here is directed to buy and hold strategies (so you only get stung once for a withdrawal after X number of years), if you want day trading advice there are other subs for that. See my comment here.
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Moved 2 years ago, savings followed later - any tax implication?

So I immigrated to Canada about 2 years ago but I didn’t move all my funds/savings with me (except a bit for emergency spending) as I didn’t have much expenses. I only moved majority of my savings (~500k) in the past two weeks as I was getting a good forex exchange rate.
Would I need to report to CRA (or perhaps to FINTRAC?) next year as the transfer amounts were big? (Each transfer was of about 50k)
And also should I be concerned of any tax implications as maybe I shouldn’t have transferred these savings as big amounts lumped together?
Thank you in advance for your kind advice!
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looking for advice on possible scam?

Disclaimer: I really know nothing about investing, so sorry if the way I'm describing the situation is confusing.
My dad has recently been sharing with me that he's made a decent amount of money through investing in futures (?)/Forex in HK. He found this broker through a friend he met in this investing group he was in. The website is fxmarkethk.com. After making money, he's started the process of trying to transfer the money to his US account. He contacted my uncle in HK to ask about paying taxes on the earnings. Apparently, he has to pay some 4% interest on the earnings, and this amount can't just be taken out from the money he's trying to transfer. My uncle then reached out to me last night saying that he's concerned that this site might be a scam.
I looked into the site myself, and I'm really concerned. My dad's friend informed him that he has been using the site for over a year. I checked the domain registration date, and multiple sites say it was created in Feb 2020. I also imaged searched the headshots the supposed "founders", and I found a completely different person with a whole ass linkedin and twitter account. I couldn't find other people linked to the 3 other headshots included in the "core team" section of the site. The site also claims to have subsidiaries, I looked them all up and two were created only in Dec 2019, one in 2016. I couldn't find any information on the main company, even though on the company's website it says that it's been around since 2002. I also thought it was weird that you can only use international wire transfer through SWIFT to transfer money. I compared with other reputable brokers in HK and they offer credit/debit options for depositing money.
I have no idea if any of this shows that this site is a scam. The site looks pretty legit but anyone can just make a site. I told my dad all my concerns, but he doesn't really believe me. Right now, we're just waiting to see if the money that he transferred successfully arrives in his US account by next Monday. I guess I'm posting on here to see if anyone has any advice for what he should do if this turns out to be a scam. Is there something I should be concerned about here? I'm also not sure what the possible outcomes are--like I know he can just not get any of the money he earned/lose the initial amount he put in, but is there a possibility for identity theft since they needed his information to create his account? Are there things he can do to safeguard against that?
Thanks everyone for your time. Any help or info is greatly appreciated!
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Capital gains tax on overseas shares

Hello,
Im trying to work out if capital gains tax is due on overseas share trades when no gain has been made in $ terms but a forex gain in £ has occured. I am using Interactive Brokers who allow me to loan USD secured against my GBP balance.
Example:
Acquisition: 01.01.20, GBPUSD 1:1.5
- USA shares purchase price $150 (£100) (purchased with loaned amount of $150)
- Interactive Brokers Loan liability $150 (£100) (loan is in $ and will be repaid in $, the repaybale amount in $ will not change)

Disposal: 31.01.20, GBPUSD 1:1.2
- USA shares disposal price $150 (£125) (no change in usd share price but change in gbp due to fx rate, $150 disposal proceeds stay in usd and immediately pay off the loan)
- Interactive brokers loan liability repaid $150 (£125) (In GBP the usd loan has increased from £100 to £125 due to the fx rate change)

Overall Gain/Loss
Gains/Losses:Gain/loss on share price = $0 (£25 gain when converted to gbp due to fx rate change)
Gain/loss on loan repayment = $0 (-£25 loss when converted to gbp due to fx rate change)
Net = £0

Any advice is appreciated, thankyou.
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Belgian moving from Athens to Limassol

Hi cyprus!
As the title says, I will be moving from Athens to Limassol somewhere in May. I was offered a sales position in the Forex industry that pays fairly well; 1800 before tax + allowances. I have little interest in sales and Forex but as opportunities are scares in Athens I am interested in giving it a try. The question I have is will I be able to find a normal IT Operations job in the future? Customer Success, Technical Account Manager, IT Inside Sales, Service Delivery etc... Please give me advice and feel free to comment about anything. I speak a little Greek and know the alphabet and want to advance this. Work, CrossFit and study Greek will be my main focuses.
Greetings!
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[Beginner Investor] Need help vetting my thoughts!

Hi Everyone!

Been doing quite a bit of reading these past couple weeks to finally start off on my investment path, but still feel uncertain on a few points, and I was hoping some kind soul could help vet my thoughts?

  1. Due to risk apetite, current situation, 15% DWT, and pursuit of a globally diversified passive investing strategy i've narrowed it down to starting off with IWDA (Might read up more on SWRD) + EIMI for now.a. Although these ETF's are bought in foreign fx, they're still the best option in terms of TER.ie. in comparison to SGX traded alternatives for global exposure (ex. sgx s27 for S&P500)
  2. I've opened a Saxo account which i intend to grow till i hit 100K, at which point I should swap to IB.
  3. My Saxo account is set to SGD, but ultimately that setting won't really matter as IWDA and EMIM are bought on LSE so i'll have to take the forex risk regardless.
  4. Due to all the fees involved, it makes more sense to DCA into these ETF's on a quarterly basis vs for example 1K SGD on a monthly basis.
Do the above four points seem reasonable?
I'm also curious, I've got quite a bit of savings in an Irish bank account.... I'm thinking of moving that over to my SG bank using transferwise to function as my emergency fund. Or would it make more sense transferring it to SAXO to use for investing in the LSE based ETF's?

Thank you so much for any advice, i'd really really appreciate someone helping to sort out my thoughts!

[EDIT] To help clarify on the excessive acronyms
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Moving to live in another country, but getting paid in CAD$, how best to arrange my finances

I will be moving temporarily (12 months) to work in another country but will remain earning in Canadian dollars. I will not be changing my tax or residency status (remaining Canadian) but looking how best to optimize my spending. Obviously I will need to transfer over $XXX to a new local bank account, but also suspect that I will be buying lots of things and getting hit by typical 2.5% exchange fees.
Looking for advice on the following:
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21 year old opening up Traditional IRA this summer. Is it better for me to stay dependent or to file independently?

Recently asked the sub the best way to invest as a young adult, I got some great advice here and it opened my eyes to the real risk of individually betting on stocks. After I mentioned forex, I was quickly eaten alive by you guys but after thinking about it, it does seem redundant to invest in anything other than the s&p for my situation. I want to build a solid foundation first before being so risky.
So anyways, I’m planning on opening an account with Fidelity. I know money contributed to the traditional IRA is tax deductible. I do understand the difference between a Roth and Traditional and decided traditional was best for me because I plan to use it to buy my first house (hopefully) in the next five years.
Considering my contributions are tax deductible, and I would be frequently investing a percentage of my paychecks into the IRA, Is it better that I file independently so that I can reap these tax benefits? Or is it better to stay dependent as long as i can? What are the benefits of filing independently for people my age?
Thanks
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Foreign Currency ACB Reporting for Day Trading Forex

Hello,
I am looking for any advice and insight into tracking trading and investments with USD borrowed margin involved as a Canadian, as well as Day Trading / Forex multiple pairs.
It sounds like it is possible to track the Adjusted Cost Base of Forex Trading through tracking long and borrowed positions when doing a spot trade on a currency pair such as EUUSD with Canadian Currency, but I can't find too many resources on how-to, or software that assists with this other than.
https://www.adjustedcostbase.ca/blog/calculating-adjusted-cost-base-with-foreign-currency-transactions/
Holding Canadian Dollars as the Account Currency in a Forex Trading Accouunt
My understanding is that
1) Going long on EUUSD, with EUR being the base currency, USD being the quote currency, you're purchasing EUR, and borrowing USD to cover the EUR position?
2) Going short on EUUSD, you're borrowing EUR and selling it, and also borrowing USD to go long on USD position?
Anyone have any insight, or resources, or referrals to trading/investment tax accountants?
If the frequency of trades are say 2-3 times a week (with say 1-2 trades per day, enter and exit same day), but this is not a full-time profession, would this be better tracked as capital transactions (therefore need to track ACB in a capital account) or just claim these transactions as income transactions for simplicity?
Thanks
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Noob Safe Haven Thread | Oct 21-27 2019

Post any options questions you wanted to ask, but were afraid to ask. A weekly thread in which questions will be received with equanimity. There are no stupid questions, only dumb answers.   Fire away. This is a weekly rotation with past threads linked below. This project succeeds thanks to people thoughtfully sharing their knowledge and experiences (YOU are invited to respond to questions posted here.)
Perhaps you're looking for an item in the frequent answers list below.
For a useful response about a particular option trade, disclose position details, so that responders can assist. Vague inquires receive vague responses. Tell us: TICKER -- Put or Call -- strike price (for each leg, on spreads) -- expiration date -- cost of option entry -- date of option entry -- underlying stock price at entry -- current option (spread) market value -- current underlying stock price -- your rationale for entering the position.   .
Key informational links: • Glossary • List of Recommended Books • Introduction to Options (The Options Playbook) • The complete side-bar informational links, for mobile app users.

Links to the most frequent answers

I just made (or lost) $____. Should I close the trade? Yes, close the trade, because you had no plan for an exit to limit your risk. Your trade is a prediction: a plan directs action upon an (in)validated prediction. Take the gain (or loss). End the risk of losing the gain (or increasing the loss). Plan the exit before the start of each trade, for both a gain, and maximum loss. • Exit-first trade planning, and using a risk-reduction trade checklist (Redtexture)
Why did my options lose value, when the stock price went in a favorable direction? • Options extrinsic and intrinsic value, an introduction (Redtexture)
Getting started in options • Calls and puts, long and short, an introduction (Redtexture) • Exercise & Assignment - A Guide (ScottishTrader) • Some useful educational links • Some introductory trading guidance, with educational links • Options Expiration & Assignment (Option Alpha) • Expiration time and date (Investopedia)
Common mistakes and useful advice for new options traders • Five mistakes to avoid when trading options (Options Playbook) • Top 10 Mistakes Beginner Option Traders Make (Ally Bank) • One year into options trading: lessons learned (whitethunder9) • Here's some cold hard words from a professional trader (magik_moose) • Thoughts after trading for 7 Years (invcht2) • Avoiding Stupidity is Easier than Seeking Brilliance (Farnum Street Blog) • 20 Habits of Highly Successful Traders (Viper Report) (40 minutes) • There's a bull market somewhere (Jason Leavitt) (3 minutes)
Trade planning, risk reduction and trade size, etc. • Exit-first trade planning, and using a risk-reduction trade checklist (Redtexture) • Trade Checklists and Guides (Option Alpha) • An illustration of planning on trades failing. (John Carter) (at 90 seconds) • Trade Simulator Tool (Radioactive Trading) • Risk of Ruin (Better System Trader)
Minimizing Bid-Ask Spreads (high-volume options are best) • Fishing for a price: price discovery with (wide) bid-ask spreads (Redtexture) • List of option activity by underlying (Market Chameleon) • List of option activity by underlying (Barchart) • Open Interest by ticker (optinistics)
Closing out a trade • Most options positions are closed before expiration (Options Playbook) • When to Exit Guide (Option Alpha) • Risk to reward ratios change over the life of a position: a reason for early exit (Redtexture)
Options Greeks and Option Chains • An Introduction to Options Greeks (Options Playbook) • Options Greeks (Epsilon Options) • Option Greeks (Chris Butler - Project Option) • A selected list of option chain & option data websites • See also the wiki FAQ
Selected Trade Positions & Management • The Wheel Strategy (ScottishTrader) • Rolling Short (Credit) Spreads (Options Playbook) • Rolling Short (Credit) Spreads (Redtexture) • Long Call vs. Call Spread Options Strategy Comparison (Chris Butler - Project Option) (30 Minutes) • Take the loss (here's why) (Clay Trader) (15 minutes) • The diagonal calendar spread and "poor man's covered call" (Redtexture) • Creative Ways to Avoid The Pattern Day Trader Rule (Sean McLaughlin) • See also the wiki FAQ
Implied Volatility, IV Rank, and IV Percentile (of days) • See the wiki FAQ
Miscellaneous: Economic Calendars, International Brokers, RobinHood, Pattern Day Trader, CBOE Exchange Rules, Contract Specifications, TDA Margin Handbook, EU Regulations on US ETFs, US Taxes and Options • See the wiki FAQ for most of this material • Selected calendars of economic reports and events • An incomplete list of international brokers dealing in US options markets (Redtexture)
Following week's Noob thread: Oct 21-27 2019
Previous weeks' Noob threads:
Oct 14-20 2019 Oct 7-13 2019 Sept 30 - Oct 6 2019
Sept 23-29 2019 Sept 16-22 2019 Sept 09-15 2019 Sept 02-09 2019 Aug 26 - Sept 02 2019
Complete NOOB archive, 2018, and 2019
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i need advice

hello everyone, i am a depressed 19 yo student, in my country we can't study and have a job at the same time, my father makes 500 dollars a month, half of it goes to electricity bills and taxes, i tried to start a drop shipping business but i don't have money to start with and also learned Forex and stock trading for a year and also had no luck because i have no capital to start with and also tried to find a job from home way to many times with nothing working because everything i tried needs capital to start with, i tried killing myself in the past but was to afraid to hurt my family, i need some advice on how to make money to help my family, i am now trying to freelance but no luck yet, please someone give me an advice and thank you . ( sorry for my bad English i hope you understand )
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patulong naman po mga kapwa redditors

una po sa lahat nabasa ko naman na yung FAQs pero hirap po akong intindihin kasi di ako ganun kabihasa sa english.

isa po akong 29 years old na kumikita ng 28,000 bale nasa 25,890 kada buwan kung iaawas yung tax at deduction. makati po ako nagtatrabaho hamak na office assistant lang po ako sa isang di kilalang company. okay naman pag dating sa trabaho pero pagod at madaming ginagawa. hindi ko po kasi alam paano ako makaka angat sa career. graduate lang ako sa di kilalang school tas wala akong masyadong kilala. business ad lang natapos ko. hirap ako sa pagintindi ng ginagawa nila sa coding. Sa totoo lang po ay nakakainggit ang mga kabataan dito na kumikita na ng 50,000 pataas. kung ganun lang sana ang sweldo.

Sa ngayon po ay pinapag aral ko ang girlfriend ko, natigil siya sa pag-aaral nuong panahon na wala pang Senior high, dahil sa hirap ng buhay at namasukang katulong. sana po ay wag niyo haluan ng malisya na parang sugar daddy ako kasi gusto ko talaga siyang tulungan at pursigido naman talaga siya. ayun, nahirapan kami maghanap ng school para sa kanya pero may nakita naman kami na school sa Rizal. bale 15,000 to 16,000 sa isang taon yung tuition niya. pagdating sa pang araw araw niya nasa 5,800 ang para sa bahay niya, kasama na ang kuryente at internet sa pamamagitan lamang ng Smart Wifi. Tapos 4,500 naman ang pang buwan buwan na pagkain at pang school niya.

bukod pa doon ay sa akin din, 7,750 naman yung renta ko malapit sa office, 500 ang kuryente. at nasa 3,000 ang pagkain ko.

ngayon palang po ako magsisimula sana dahil naglustay ako ng naglustay sa gadget, na syang pinagsisisihan ko. sumubok din ako sa Forex, nawalan ako ng 40,000 isa ko pang mali. Bukod pa doon ay sumubok ako ng online store at gumastos ako ng 30,000 pero wala din nangyari. nagsara lang at napilitan magbenta ng palugi.
pasensya na po kung mali ang mga nagawa ko kaya lubos kong pinagsisisihan.

bale nasa 3,000 na lang po ang naitatabi ko buwan buwan. wala po ako yung tinatawag niyong emergency fund. 0 talaga. pero kahit papaano ay mayroon akong 15,000 sa banko. pwede narin panimula yun pero sa tingin ko di pa sapat ito. tapos sa 2021 gagraduate ang girlfriend ko kaya lilipat na siya sa akin at sabay na kaming magtatrabaho. siguro pag ka graduate niya ay makakaluwang ako ng mga 9,000 kada buwan at magiging 12,000 kada buwan ang pwede kong maipon sa October ng 2021

gusto ko sanang makapag patayo man lang ng bahay para samin na siyang titirhan din namin hanggang pagtanda at kotse kahit hyundai eon lang kung hindi naman sumosobra yung pangarap ko. Gusto rin sana namin makapag travel man lang kahit sa Korea, Singapore at syempre ang retirement plan. hindi ko po alam kung 3000 ng dalawang taon at 12000 paggrumaduate na ang girlfriend ko ay kaya ba makamit ang pangarap ko. saan po ba magandang mag-invest din para sa taong katulad ko na mababa lang ang maiipon tipong 3k hanggang 12k buwan buwan. onting advice din sa retirement plan kung paano po bubuuin yun. gusto ko lang ay simple tipong magtatanim tanim at payak na buhay. Siguro ay sakaling pagtanda namin ay kailangan namin ng katulong dahil wala kaming kamag-anak na tutulong sa gawaing bahay at naiisip ko baka kami lang dalawa sa pagtanda.

pasensya na po sana po ay mabigyan niyo ko ng advice.
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UK tax laws in 2020 - how do they apply to stablecoin lending/borrowing?

Hi All,
I had a quick search on the sub for UK Tax threads, couldn’t find much within the last year so I’ve come to ask about a specific use case.
My plan:
I found two articles on UK tax laws re-crypto assets with a breakdown of how to calculate capital-gains-tax in a few scenarios here for a very neat breakdown by use case and this one - both from November 2019.
Given my plan above, I feel like all I’m doing is effectively
I won’t be speculating on the price of any crypto asset, because the only crypto I will hold will be pegged to the USD. If this whole thing is treated as an asset trade and taxed as Capital-Gains, does that mean I should be checking to see what the difference in rate of exchange is between USD/GBP at time of exchange and eventual time of exchange back and paying CGT based on that? Presumably one doesn’t normally need to do this when exchanging fiat for fiat and back again?
Do I need to pay any specific tax on the interest earned whilst lending the stablecoin? Would this be taxed as income? Does this also mean I get taxed twice (on the interest earned, and the FOREX change when going back to GBP fiat?
TBH, I’m not planning on doing this for any huge amount at least to start with, maybe £1000 GBP. I am a higher rate tax payer for income (40%) , so I’m keen to know what personal allowances get impacted by this, and whether it’s worth it all to achieve the interests rates available for lending via apps like Compound compared to fiat savings accounts and other alternatives like P2P.
Thanks for any advice help!
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Noob Safe Haven Thread | Oct 14-20 2019

Post any options questions you wanted to ask, but were afraid to ask. A weekly thread in which questions will be received with equanimity. There are no stupid questions, only dumb answers.   Fire away. This is a weekly rotation with past threads linked below. This project succeeds thanks to people thoughtfully sharing their knowledge and experiences (YOU are invited to respond to questions posted here.)
Perhaps you're looking for an item in the frequent answers list below.
For a useful response about a particular option trade, disclose position details, so that responders can assist. Vague inquires receive vague responses. Tell us: TICKER -- Put or Call -- strike price (for each leg, on spreads) -- expiration date -- cost of option entry -- date of option entry -- underlying stock price at entry -- current option (spread) market value -- current underlying stock price -- your rationale for entering the position.   .
Key informational links: • Glossary • List of Recommended Books • Introduction to Options (The Options Playbook) • The complete side-bar informational links, for mobile app users.

Links to the most frequent answers

I just made (or lost) $____. Should I close the trade? Yes, close the trade, because you had no plan for an exit to limit your risk. Your trade is a prediction: a plan directs action upon an (in)validated prediction. Take the gain (or loss). End the risk of losing the gain (or increasing the loss). Plan the exit before the start of each trade, for both a gain, and maximum loss. • Exit-first trade planning, and using a risk-reduction trade checklist (Redtexture)
Why did my options lose value, when the stock price went in a favorable direction? • Options extrinsic and intrinsic value, an introduction (Redtexture)
Getting started in options • Calls and puts, long and short, an introduction (Redtexture) • Exercise & Assignment - A Guide (ScottishTrader) • Some useful educational links • Some introductory trading guidance, with educational links • Options Expiration & Assignment (Option Alpha) • Expiration time and date (Investopedia)
Common mistakes and useful advice for new options traders • Five mistakes to avoid when trading options (Options Playbook) • Top 10 Mistakes Beginner Option Traders Make (Ally Bank) • One year into options trading: lessons learned (whitethunder9) • Here's some cold hard words from a professional trader (magik_moose) • Thoughts after trading for 7 Years (invcht2) • Avoiding Stupidity is Easier than Seeking Brilliance (Farnum Street Blog) • 20 Habits of Highly Successful Traders (Viper Report) (40 minutes) • There's a bull market somewhere (Jason Leavitt) (3 minutes)
Trade planning, risk reduction and trade size, etc. • Exit-first trade planning, and using a risk-reduction trade checklist (Redtexture) • Trade Checklists and Guides (Option Alpha) • An illustration of planning on trades failing. (John Carter) (at 90 seconds) • Trade Simulator Tool (Radioactive Trading) • Risk of Ruin (Better System Trader)
Minimizing Bid-Ask Spreads (high-volume options are best) • Fishing for a price: price discovery with (wide) bid-ask spreads (Redtexture) • List of option activity by underlying (Market Chameleon) • List of option activity by underlying (Barchart) • Open Interest by ticker (optinistics)
Closing out a trade • Most options positions are closed before expiration (Options Playbook) • When to Exit Guide (Option Alpha) • Risk to reward ratios change over the life of a position: a reason for early exit (Redtexture)
Options Greeks and Option Chains • An Introduction to Options Greeks (Options Playbook) • Options Greeks (Epsilon Options) • Theta Decay: The Ultimate Guide (Chris Butler - Project Option) • Theta decay rates differ: At the money vs. away from the money • Theta: A Detailed Look at the Decay of Option Time Value (James Toll) • Gamma Risk Explained - (Gavin McMaster - Options Trading IQ) • How Often Within Expected Move? Data Science and Implied Volatility (Michael Rechenthin, PhD - TastyTrade 2017) • A selected list of option chain & option data websites
Selected Trade Positions & Management • The Wheel Strategy (ScottishTrader) • Rolling Short (Credit) Spreads (Options Playbook) • Rolling Short (Credit) Spreads (Redtexture) • Synthetic option positions: Why and how they are used (Fidelity) • Covered Calls Tutorial (Option Investor) • Covered Calls - Chris Butler - Project Option (20 minutes) • The 10 Most Common Mistakes Made by Covered Call Writers - Allen Ellman - Blue Caller Investor (8 minutes) • Take the loss (here's why) (Clay Trader) (15 minutes) • The diagonal calendar spread and "poor man's covered call" (Redtexture) • Creative Ways to Avoid The Pattern Day Trader Rule (Sean McLaughlin) • Short calls and puts, and dividend risk (Redtexture) • Options and Dividend Risk (Sage Anderson, TastyTrade) • Options contract adjustments: what you should know (Fidelity) • Options contract adjustment announcements / memoranda (Options Clearing Corporation)
Implied Volatility, IV Rank, and IV Percentile (of days) • An introduction to Implied Volatility (Khan Academy) • An introduction to Black Scholes formula (Khan Academy) • IV Rank vs. IV Percentile: Which is better? (Project Option) • IV Rank vs. IV Percentile in Trading (Tasty Trade) (video)
Miscellaneous: Economic Calendars, International Brokers, RobinHood, Pattern Day Trader, CBOE Exchange Rules, Contract Specifications, TDA Margin Handbook, EU Regulations on US ETFs, US Taxes and Options • Selected calendars of economic reports and events • An incomplete list of international brokers dealing in US options markets (Redtexture) • Free brokerages can be very costly: Why option traders should not use RobinHood • Pattern Day Trader status and $25,000 margin account balances (FINRA) • How to find out when a new expiration is opening up: email: [email protected] for the status of a particular ticker's new expirations.
• CBOE Contract Specifications and Trading Days & Hours • TDAmeritrade Margin Handbook (18 pages PDF) • Monthly expirations of Index options are settled on next day prices • PRIIPS, KIPs, EU regulations, ETFs, Options, Brokers • Key Information Documents (KIDs) for European Citizens (Options Clearing Corporation) • Taxes and Investing (Options Industry Council) (PDF) • CBOE Exchange Rules (770+ pages, PDF) • NASDAQ Options Exchange Rules
Following week's Noob thread: Oct 21-27 2019
Previous weeks' Noob threads:
Oct 7-13 2019 Sept 30 - Oct 6 2019
Sept 23-29 2019 Sept 16-22 2019 Sept 09-15 2019 Sept 02-09 2019 Aug 26 - Sept 02 2019
Complete NOOB archive, 2018, and 2019
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#TaxingTalks Episode 2: Forex, Sole Prop & CGT DAY TRADING TAXES! EXPLAINED! - YouTube 5 Things I Wish I Had Known When I Started Trading Forex ... Stocks & Options Trading: The Best Tax Advice How to be Consistently Profitable in Forex Trading - YouTube FOREX LIVE ANALYSIS  6/29/20 + Q/A Training Currency Trading Guide : About Currency Trading Taxes

Forex Tax Planning Advice & Information. If you're an existing forex trader/investor or are looking to 'dip you toe' in forex trading, understanding how forex profits are taxed and more importantly how you can reduce your UK tax bill is essential. When you consider that the current higher rate of income tax is 40% (rising to 50% next year) effectively reducing your taxes can have a huge effect ... The critical tax question for most retail off-exchange forex traders is how to handle spot forex. Guidance from the IRS is uncertain on spot forex. We’ve done extensive work on forex taxation, and spot forex in particular. We believe that in many cases, spot forex can be treated like forex forwards, qualifying for lower 60/40 tax rates in Section 1256(g) on major currency pairs only. If you ... Forex traders found liable to personal taxation on their trading profits in the U.K. are taxed on the basis of their applicable income tax rates or capital gains tax. Interest payments and profits from trading when conducted as a business are likely to be subject to income tax (from 20% to 45%), while other taxable profits are generally taxed as a capital gain (at 10% or 20%). # 1 Thing #1 Shop for cheap price Forex Trading Simulator Free Download And Forex Trading Tax Advice . Tax Rates Business Entities. Forex traders should be aware that different South African business entities are subject to different tax rates. Here is a brief explanation: Companies. Forex trading which is done through a registered South African company is subject to a flat tax rate of 28% of its taxable income: SARS Pocket Tax Guide 2017/2018. Small Corporations. Small business corporations ... Industry practice and forex tax law dictates that forex accounts are exempt from 1099 reporting. Only interest income on forex accounts is 1099 reportable. The above forex broker told us that their big-four accounting firm initially wanted them to issue 1099s for forex accounts in the same way a futures broker issues 1099s for IRC 1256 contracts. The big four firm explained that forex was now ... Forex Options and Futures Traders . For tax purposes, forex options and futures contracts are considered IRC Section 1256 contracts, which are subject to a 60/40 tax consideration.In other words ... Forex trading tax laws in the UK are in line with rules around other instruments, despite you buying and selling foreign currency. However, if you remain unsure about tax laws surrounding your specific instrument, seek professional tax advice. Tax Tips. Even with all the information at your disposal, day trading and UK tax is still an unsteady tightrope to walk. That’s why you need to act ... But if there’s one piece of advice you should take from this, now comes the tricky part: Forex tax how to file taxes for your situation. forex tax. They are just observing how much profit they can make from forex trading. 4 million in any combination of tax years you may be able file form 8886. If you pay for goods forex services in foreign currency, the investor can choose to trade as ... That's an unexpected turn Fox New sources say Trump will admit defeat after receiving advice from his advisors. That would be a big surprise and remove many of the tail risks around the transition.

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#TaxingTalks Episode 2: Forex, Sole Prop & CGT

The Company is not an investment, financial, tax, or legal advisor or a broker-dealer and does not purport to provide personalized investment, financial, tax, or legal advice in any form. The ... Day Trading Taxes! We talk about DayTrading taxes and how they work. Have you ever heard of a Wash Sale? Have you thought about becoming a Maker to Market cl... How to be Consistently Profitable in Forex Trading. Please like the video and comment if you enjoyed - it helps a lot! Trade forex on Ayondo http://www.fina... The best piece of trading advice I wish I'd known before I started forex. http://www.financial-spread-betting.com/course/technical-analysis.html PLEASE LIKE ... While I am not qualified or licensed to give tax advice when it comes to trading, I do have one thing to advise on in regards to the tax man. If you think I'm being overdramatic in this video ... How Forex Traders Can Qualify for Tax Trader Status - Duration: 12:24. ... Stocks & Options Trading: The Best Tax Advice - Duration: 6:05. ClayTrader 14,873 views. 6:05 (Forex Taxes) How To File ... In this episode, I discuss the tax implications of forex trading, the tax on sole proprietors and the basics of Capital Gains Tax. Disclaimer: If you need specific tax advice to your unique ...

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